It may be possible to inculcate obedience through the dark arts.Īlternatively, you may be able to find claimants. With the order temporarily weakened this way, the ruler will appear stronger.Ĭharacters who are obedient toward you will also accept vassalization offers. One rather gamey way to appear more powerful than the order is to hire them and then deliberately deplete their troops, such as via futile assaults or having them stand around in high-attrition land. Since rulers will only accept diplomatic vassalization if their would-be liege is significantly stronger than they are, it can be hard to vassalize a powerful holy order.

Same culture (note that each new captain will adopt the holy order's traditional culture).

Their de jure liege (you may grant one of your de jure duchies to a holy order while at peace, or use the technique described below to have a mercenary band inherit one of your de jure duchies).

As with any vassalization offer, you must be at least two of: Methods Offer vassalization Ī landed mercenary company or holy order may, like any independent duke-tier ruler, accept diplomatic vassalization if the requester is a same-religion neighbor.

With fewer than 10 castles under their control, the holy order will be able to construct new castles for only 300g each, completing the cycle. You will inherit these castles, as their succession remains Appointment even after retraction.

You can retract the castles they erect, with minimal-to-no penalty to opinion from other vassals.

Without Conclave, appointing a greedy character as your steward may allow you to seize their wealth.

Holy order captains can become incredibly rich from donations and effectively owning 10 castles.

This further decreases the hiring cost, and gives monthly prestige and piety to all count+ rulers of your dynasty with the correct religion.

You can remove members of other dynasties from the order's line of succession to help a knight of your dynasty become the next grandmaster.

(For the latter, you may need to reload or recalc_succ on their parent.) With the holy order under your control, you can land these characters to either press their claims or allow them to inherit their parent's title.

Many sons of rulers will become courtiers of the holy order.

Vassalized holy orders can raid if you are allowed, which greatly help their liege in upgrading their holdings.

A vassal company charges only 1/5 the regular hiring cost.

A vassal company can only be raised by its liege, and can be hired regardless of the company's normal hiring limitations.

2.4 Stealing vassal companies from other kingsīenefits of vassalizing companies.

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